Family Therapy Podcast
Two cousins get together to discuss recent events & hot topics with insight from their generational differences and outlook on today's society & culture. Warren and Erica offer commentary on entertainment and music industry news. This podcast welcomes listeners a peak into their unique upbringing with hilarious stories and general life survival guides.
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Episode 3: What Now, Erica? | Failure
Erica talks about how failure can be an important aspect to anyone’s success and how the subject of failure is frowned upon, even by ourselves.
Warren opens up about Herbaloco Wellness as one of his own failed projects, and his plans for reigniting that passion very soon.
yeah, how's it going today, warren?
Speaker 2:good, how are you?
Speaker 1:good, good, uh.
Speaker 2:So today's episode is we are going to talk about failure and just when it all falls apart when you feel defeated and there's like nothing else you can do yes, yes.
Speaker 1:Is there a time that comes to mind where you feel like you were just like? You know you failed big I call it.
Speaker 1:I call it being defeated, like truly being defeated, when all my, everything I've tried, has just failed right, you feel like you have it together to some sort right and then it's just like that saying when it rains it pours it pours, yeah, it pours, and it pours on me a lot yeah, especially when you don't need it the most. I feel like it's like, like you said, you know, uh, flat tire. You go to check your bank account, you think you have some funds, but then the the annual fee came out and it's like, oh man, but um, that's, yeah, so defeat, yeah, that's, that's a big one, but um, yeah, I what about you?
Speaker 2:have you ever felt defeated or like when all was lost moment?
Speaker 1:Yeah, just when it all like seriously, when just I feel like my world has fallen apart several times, just you know it's like, and when that time comes I'm like, oh fuck, man, here we go. You know, I'm just trying to figure out. I I tend to have a plan B most of the time, but sometimes I'm just, like you said, you know defeated. But the most recent failure I want to share is so I work in the finance world and I work for a firm and I need to take three exams, and once I take those three exams, I get an huge increase in pay. And so I've, and so I've been with the company going on three years now here in July, and so the first year I was like okay, you know, I'm gonna just get the job down, learn the job, because it takes some time. Get it down to where I feel comfortable, then I'll start studying right.
Speaker 1:So, okay, year one, that's what I did. Year two I know the job, I'm comfortable, I'm confident. So now I'm going to start incorporating studying for this exam right for the first part of the exam, which is self-sufficient, so it's like you don't need a sponsor or anything like that, so they provide the content, the book and videos and stuff. But I did have to pay actually for another source of learning. But anyways, so did that would study at work with my colleagues and you know, really excited. And then I go to take the exam and I fail.
Speaker 2:You failed.
Speaker 1:By two points.
Speaker 2:By two points.
Speaker 1:Two points and it took months to study. And so that feeling of just like, like what the hell man I thought I had this this like I thought I had it and I just felt like a total failure, you know.
Speaker 1:And it's just like, okay, you know, just let it go, um, whatever. So then I started a new role within the company again. Well, you know, just learning the new role, and this is part. This is year three, and so I'm just a few months back. I was like, okay, I'm gonna refresh my memory, I'm gonna study, I'm gonna do like a crash study, you know, just so I do that. Go pay and keep in mind, you have to pay for these exams 80 bucks.
Speaker 2:80 bucks each time, geez, yeah, who just has 80 bucks in this economy? I don't know why. Why.
Speaker 1:It's a FINRA exam so you have to pay for it. And yeah, so went all excited, had a great support system and totally bombed it the second time, like, not like, like, like you, just no, totally like, just bombed at the second time, like, not like, I like, like you just know totally like just bombed it oh, wow what and I'm like what the hell?
Speaker 1:like what is going on, you know? So I felt like it's just like man, like what do I do now? Like I, how do I get past this first freaking exam and how am I going to comprehend the material? Now it just comes down to comprehension, I feel, because it's like I know what they're talking about, but the exam, the way the questions are presented, I just I need to figure out. You know, like you know what I'm trying to say Gotcha?
Speaker 2:yeah, the way they word. The question is just it throws you off it does and I think it's meant to do that. I don't know why it's just so ridiculous. If you pay for the exam, is that you let you pass it you?
Speaker 1:know. No, this, this exam is crazy. Like you go in, you have to go. Like they scan your arms and your hands and like crazy stuff, like it's a really intense exam. It's 175 questions and I believe there's uh some uh what are those questions called? Where they're just don't even count, like those uh fillers uh, fillers, I mean yeah there's like, there's like these filler questions in the exam that are in there I guess, again another thing to throw you off. I'm like what the hell for?
Speaker 1:like you just let me you know pass the down test right, it's so hard but they're like filler questions. There's probably a proper term, but I'm just drawing a blank right now and uh, regardless if you get them right or wrong, they just don't. It doesn't count towards the exam oh, like, okay I got you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Yeah, just like uh just like, uh, just so, just because a question yeah, just there, just yeah, just there yeah, like pointless, you know, and I'm like damn man, like come on, help me out here, help me us out. That's ridiculous. Yeah, so I hate tests. Yeah, 175 questions, that's a lot. Yeah, and it's like test anxiety.
Speaker 1:I get test anxiety for some reason and I ship it. You know, it's like I know this material. I'm very good at what I do.
Speaker 1:I'm very knowledgeable at what I do and it's just like this test just is feels like it's getting the best of me you know, and I feel defeated with and and like a failure with this darn exam and it's just like it's an arm's reach and um, just trying to figure out a way how to move past. That is is where I'm at now. So I'm like, okay, just trying to regroup now. So I'm like, okay, just trying to regroup. I need that's. My goal by the end of the year is to have that exam done.
Speaker 1:The first one at least you know. So um, and then once I do that, they'll put me into um, what is it called? Like a class, like they sponsor you and then you'll get the next series and then after that's done, and then they sponsor you for the last licensing. So that's just kind of to get that big bump in pay. If I want to do more, then I would do two more exams, but I'm just like I'm exhausted, I can't even pass the first one, so we'll get there eventually.
Speaker 2:But yeah, I just feel like a failure. Yeah, you'll definitely get there and I understand how you can feel like a failure. Yeah, that's a big test. It's a big test.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. But then you've got to think of it as, like, sometimes I think, all right, maybe it's just not my time right now. Maybe it's just not my time right now. Maybe I need to focus on something else within my job, my career, right? Or this failure that I'm feeling, you know, with my job. Is it redirection, do you think, or is it? But then I get conflicted because I'm like, okay, how is that redirecting me from something that I enjoy doing? Like, is this not the role I should be in? Should I be in a different role within the firm? Like, what is it, you know?
Speaker 2:Like are you going to change anything? Like maybe change your studying habits? Have you tried that first?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I definitely. I'm coming up with a plan for sure. But before we get into that and how I'm going to overcome this, I want to talk more about how society in general just avoids talking about failure, especially on social media, because everything is so perfect.
Speaker 2:Look what I have, look what I've got, look at my house, look at my cars.
Speaker 3:I do this, I'm successful and I'm this and I'm that.
Speaker 1:Why do you think it's so hard for people to talk about failure, or why do you think they avoid talking about failure? What is your opinion on that?
Speaker 2:Because people don't like to show on that, because people don't like to show their weaknesses, they don't like to show them online, they don't, uh, I think you know it's, yeah, like a sign of weakness yeah to show that you failed at something which is crazy to me, because it's like we have all failed at some point and and, like I mentioned before, it's like I failed multiple times and in past failures.
Speaker 1:It was a lesson learned to me. But another thing that I feel and you can again, I want your opinion on this is I feel like it's more looked down upon on women, like when women fail, like it's just like a big deal. I don't feel like as a woman, I feel like I have this standard to hold and you know things like that. So when I fail, I feel like it's just, you know, more heat. Does that make sense?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Do you feel like that?
Speaker 2:I think that does sound accurate. I think a lot of people don't expect women to succeed.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:It's, I think, a lot of people. They trust more men. You know what I'm saying. Right, yeah, I mean in general, I mean I'm just saying I'm not you know, I'm right. Yeah, I mean in general. I mean I'm just saying I'm not you know it's just, I'm just stating facts, kind of. You know like people trust a man more, I guess. So they just want to see a man succeed, right?
Speaker 1:especially in the business world, and then, like the old school right, it's like women had to fight for their rights and to vote and all these different things, and I feel like women are not respected as they should be. Um. But back to the business world.
Speaker 2:It's just that stereotype men, um, and so women are kind of like on the back burner so women try hard to get where they got to be, and when they fail, they fall harder harder, exactly. And in the spotlight.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, exactly that's exactly my point. It's just like I feel like women get the big. You know just that, oh, you know. So it's kind of like depressing in a sense, you know, yeah, it's just. I feel like it's harder to overcome when you fail, especially for me. I'm very critical of myself and I want to get things done, but I've also with that. I was in a comfortable place where I feel like maybe I wasn't giving it my all either. Maybe I need to push myself more and not be in this comfort zone, because it's like it's easy to get comfortable right and so just trying to push myself beyond those limits so I can do the things I want to do and accomplish them without feeling like a failure right yeah I think, um, the harder you are on yourself is just a reflection of how much you want to succeed.
Speaker 2:So you want to succeed, you want to do it right the first time. You want to look right the first time, sound right the first time. But then when you don't and you fail at that, you feel just as bad about it as you were passionate about it before. It's kind of like a negative kind of feeling.
Speaker 1:Does that make?
Speaker 2:sense Like just as yeah just as passionate you were as being the best. When you fail, you feel just as bad.
Speaker 1:Right Same level Like you feel, yeah, this overwhelming feeling of just like shit, you know, and I feel like perfection plays a role too, because I am a perfectionist on certain things, you know, and so when I don't get it right, that is another thing, you know, it just hits me harder and then I start overanalyzing and overthinking and I go into this spiral of you know, okay, erica, and I have to have these conversations with myself.
Speaker 1:It's like this internal battle and I'm like, okay, makes me feel not worthy, and it makes me feel like a huge, just disappointment, failure, especially to my kids, because they're watching, and I'm just like I feel like I've have to just be the best for myself not not to show off to others.
Speaker 1:You know, I don't have, I don't do social media, just because it's just too much um for me and um, that's that's another reason why, actually, I turned off social media is because I was studying for this exam and it was the distraction and I feel like I don't need to have validation from these. You know that I'm studying, or you know, because I tend to post, you know, yeah, often and it's like for what? Why am I going to do that? It's you know it's not gonna make me pass the exam, it's not gonna make me feel any better. You know it's not.
Speaker 1:And I don't know I might be going off topic now, but, um, I just, I just don't like the feeling that that gave me. You know it just triggers old wounds when I failed before, but then it also gives me that, okay, you've done it before. You know you failed and you figured it out. Here you are. If you didn't fail then would you be the person you are today? You know, I think failure does play a role in that too. Yeah, like you have to fail to succeed, right, exactly.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's definitely necessary to fail at some point, because it teaches you a lesson. It teaches you like what, what you can change, or at least gives you the opportunity to uh, course correct and just regather your information and just try again. Something wasn't right. Just change that one thing and it's up to you, your mind, to just figure that out and then, once you do, you'll achieve that happiness in that area. But I don't think you're off topic about the social media thing, because and then, once you do, you'll achieve that happiness in that area.
Speaker 2:But I don't think you're off topic about the social media thing, because when you post, when you let others, the outside world, know online what you're doing, and that kind of plays hand-in-hand with what you were saying about, people don't want to see, or what we were saying about, people don't want to see women succeed. So when they know you're trying to do something better yourself by going to see, or what we were saying about, people don't want to see women succeed. So when you, when they know you're trying to do something better yourself, like going to school or whatever you're posting your projects online, you know it's, it's gives people opportunity to like bring you down right and prevent that from happening and give that negative energy right.
Speaker 1:I feel like it's like, oh you know, look, know, look at her, look at him Right, and you know what are they doing?
Speaker 2:What a school?
Speaker 1:Let's see let's see if they you know, I haven't seen a post of her pass she probably, you know, yeah, and then that messes with you mentally too, because you're like shit, you know why did I do that? Yeah, why am I putting myself out there like that when I should? And now, whoops, I talk with my hands a lot, so I'm messing with my mic here. Can you still hear me pretty good? Yeah, okay cool, sorry about that, but I feel like I just shouldn't.
Speaker 2:It opens up an opportunity for others to just bring you down on social media.
Speaker 1:Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 2:When they see what you're doing, it just.
Speaker 1:I was going somewhere with that, though.
Speaker 2:It plays with your head Like okay, what are they going to say? Or what are they going to think?
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:So it's better to just not post anything at all.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like what is that saying too? There's another I like sayings, you know, and quotes and whatnot, but it's like move in silence, like just move in silence, yeah, and just you know it's better, it's better overall for your mental health, for your own well-being. And there's just too many critics and judgments out there, judgmental people where it's just like okay, like if you want to succeed, it'll be nice if you have at least that one person or a good support system that if you do need to get it off your chest, you can express yourself with them. But I don't think it should be like an overall, like look at me, I'm studying look at me, I'm doing this or that you know.
Speaker 1:Like look at me I'm studying. Look at me I'm doing this or that, you know, yeah. So just kind of, I've learned to move more in silence now, and if I do succeed, then maybe I could share that success story. And so I can help others too.
Speaker 2:But like hey, you know, and that's my goal is no matter what you just got to keep, keep it moving, keep it going. It's the persistence, the persistence that that really makes a difference. Keep your goals to yourself right keep them personal. That's what makes them right yeah I, yeah, I agree, and yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay, yeah, all right. And what was I going to say here? But it also just, you know failure, it builds resilience, it creates clarity, you know things like that.
Speaker 2:So I'm happy that I'm not happy that I failed, but it's just a part of my journey to where it's like, okay, you gotta think, even like a gift, like, okay, you failed, but here's just this is opportunity to figure out why change it. It works, just change whatever the one little thing that didn't work.
Speaker 1:Just change that part yeah, you gotta figure it to figure it out. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2:So that's what Philia brings Like, like, for example, with Herbaloco. Like it was a. It started out as a website and a blog and it worked, but there were some things that just didn't really work.
Speaker 1:Right, yeah, we should discuss that failure.
Speaker 2:When it came time to actually start marketing Herbaloco, I knew what I couldn't bring. That's when I was stuck because it was a website and a blog, and when it came to marketing it required. Part of the plan was for you and I one of us to put ourselves out there in a video, in videos, and just talk about what we're doing, and that I wasn't ready for that. I wasn't ready for that.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:For this podcast is kind of the same thing, Like we're putting ourselves out there in a different sense but, but I couldn't do it. Back then I brought everything else, but that part I just couldn't bring.
Speaker 1:And the website was so nicely put together and I feel like prior to when your mom and we ran the club and I was part of that for a short period of time I felt like that was very successful, um, but I wish I would have known more of, like, the structure. I think that if I did know that and I was, if I could, if I continued with that, you know, in the club, I feel like we would be, you know, on a higher status right now, because we were thriving and it just came so easy and so natural. And then we got back, you know, and then I don't know what happened, like I moved and then you guys were continuing to run the club and then just things happen, right, life happens and then it was closed down and then, years later, here we are, Like, you know, let's redo this, let's retry it. I would love to have that club filling back, but at this point and because of society and inflation and whatnot, it's a little bit.
Speaker 1:It made it a little bit harder. Right, it made it harder to achieve that goal, but we did have that outlet of the website and the blogs and things like that, which I felt like, yes, this is great, this is great. But I'm more of a hands on, so I guess I was having that internal battle where it's just like I want this club, I want the club, and that's where it's like, well, you have to get clients before you get a club, or you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Does that make sense? Yeah, so that's, I feel, why it failed Because I wanted a club. I couldn't yes the website and the blog and everything Like. I was doing the best to my ability, but I feel like that was more your strong point and I couldn't provide what you needed from me at that point because I was so focused on the club portion of it, you know.
Speaker 2:And there's a possibility, there's a way to start with the club and work backwards. But you just got to figure it out. You just got to figure it out. It's a possibility. There's no impossible, like nothing's impossible right but um, yeah, but going back to the club with herbal life and our nutrition club that we, that we ran um, I wish I would have known a lot more what I know now back then right because back then I didn't even know close to anything about running a nutrition club or a business at all.
Speaker 2:I was just making the money. And you were right, we were successful because I would be able to run that place. We would be able to run that place with negligence. Yes, and still be able to get paid and still be able to pay the bills. I mean, it was close sometimes but we made by, we made it Right Each month. But if I had known now, if I had known better.
Speaker 1:The marketing structure Right it would have been a lot.
Speaker 2:a different story, A different story.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and everything that you provided on the website and the blog, like that would have been, you know and I feel like we our timing was just off with that project yeah but it's still growing and we now we know better, we're wiser and maybe we can. You know, maybe that's still in in our future so that's, that's a. That's the beauty of it is like, okay, we failed um and totally bombed that project, but you don't know, I mean we don't.
Speaker 2:We don't know that Exactly, we don't know that it's done. It's not dead and gone.
Speaker 1:It's still.
Speaker 2:it's still there. The seed is still there. Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1:The company is still growing. And now here we are with our new project, which is, you know, it feels like it's a little messy at times, or we're trying to still get it together, but I don't want that to prevent us from moving forward, because then I would feel like a total. I feel like that would just destroy my you know, it would make me feel like even a more failure, because it's like okay, we got this herbal local. Failed, have our equipment. Yeah, we're kind of, you know, we're still learning, we're growing on this podcast and we're going to do the best to our ability and we're going to, of course, improve. But I don't want it to get to that point where we're just like throwing the towel and we're just like done. You know, you're done, I'm done because you know we didn't hit the freaking record button Right.
Speaker 2:So I'm glad that we are able to overcome the failures that we've had in our past and, um, it's a learning and growing experience, like I said, and, uh, we'll just yeah, it's definitely, and I'm I'm the type of person to give up easy, like I would give up real easy, like I, you know it's just so, yeah, it's it's good, like I, you know it's just so. Yeah, it's it's good to overcome because you know, you never know what you're working on. It could be, could be good, could be successful, you know. But uh, that's that's, yeah, that's how you feel with that.
Speaker 1:That's the Herbaloco failure we have. Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Herbaloco. I want to keep that open for sure. It's definitely not dead and gone. I have all those blogs still running out. The website, though the domain is gone. But we can get that back right, we can get it back, for sure I mean we can, we can get back for sure, but I, um, yeah, it's, it's still there and I'm still open to, I'm still a hundred percent open to reopening that doing the herbal life business with with anybody that is interested?
Speaker 1:Yeah, because I do have.
Speaker 2:We did have a solid plan. A solid plan, a solid marketing plan, a solid coaching plan. It was all there. Yeah, I mean yeah, you would feel accomplished, yeah, I would feel better about the situation because like, if we like, opened it up again. Yeah, yeah, opened that file up.
Speaker 1:But we succeeded this time. Oh yeah, and I gave it my all because I know you put so much work into that and I feel like I failed you, you know. So, yeah, we'll just have to see how we do in the future. I mean no, yeah.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't say you failed me.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But you know, because there were some things that I didn't do either, At that you failed me yeah but you know, because there were some things that I didn't do either. At that point in time, I wasn't ready to just go on camera and be like, hey, herbaloco, here we are coaching plans.
Speaker 1:Yeah, message me.
Speaker 2:You know I wasn't ready to do that at all, yeah at all, like I just wasn't there. I knew I had to get done, though, because I was at the point where I was like marketing the website and putting it on facebook and stuff. It got marketing the website and putting it on Facebook and stuff. It got to that point and putting sales in there and stuff. Like I was almost like I was done, like I was, I put the sales in that, the shipping, the taxes, it was all done, it was ready to go. But it came to the point where, like okay, warren, now you have to go on the camera and tell people sell your soul, like on the camera. And tell people sell your soul like sell yourself now.
Speaker 1:Right. And I just Couldn't do it yeah and I couldn't.
Speaker 2:If I couldn't do it, how can I tell you to do it?
Speaker 1:Right, because you have to believe in yourself too. You have to enjoy it. You have to make sure the product's working for you, which it really does.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, for sure, I stand by Herbalife.
Speaker 1:Yeah, me too.
Speaker 2:Stand by it.
Speaker 1:Everything about it, and so if I didn't want to feel like a hypocrite, you know, or you know, if I'm going to provide something, I'm going to make sure that I can yeah, just stand by it, and it's tough, 100%.
Speaker 2:It's tough because that website, like you were saying, like I didn't make, I put it together myself, I wrote all the wording was me.
Speaker 2:Everything was all me. What you read and saw, I placed there with my fingers Like it was all me, right, right. And to finally go on there to go on camera and be like, hey, this is what I did. Or here's Herbalocal Wellness, like here we are. It's pressure Because it's like putting my stuff out there for you Like to like, look, look what I did, like here we are the pressure of the pressure, you know, and just to, just to, to hear what just your friends and family think is pressure alone, and you know, it's just it's.
Speaker 2:it was a lot. It was a lot, but I think if if I were to go back there, you know, I think I would, yeah, yeah, I I mean, we're doing this podcast now, so in a way, we are kind of coming out of our shell here, but um, yeah, yeah, and I think that there's uh definitely, um, you know, yeah, we'll, we'll discuss that off, yeah, but it'll come back it'll come back for sure, um, but uh, you ready for a break? Yeah, you ready for break?
Speaker 1:yeah, I'm ready all righty we are back so, with all that being said, warren, yes, yes. How do you rebuild after a big failure like that, or even a small one?
Speaker 2:How do you rebuild your identity after? I like to rebuild just by taking a step back and asking myself what went wrong wrong here, yeah, what went wrong here, and what can I do? What can I change to succeed next time? And then, even after I I I look at all that stuff and I feel like something maybe just will not work. Like if I take a look at my plan and one aspect I just know I just can't change and I know it's the faulty part of my plan, that's when I kind of just start to like think maybe this is not the right path, maybe or maybe this is not the right way to go. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Yeah about it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah uh, but just to course correct as much as much as I could. I think the more I want the goal, the more I'll work on course correcting right, which is important, because that's the same with me.
Speaker 1:It's like once I, you know, try something and I just totally bombed it, you know, know, I I have to sit back and reflect and be like, okay, well, and you have to write it out, and you know, because it's like, okay, this worked for me, this didn't work for me, so what can I do differently? So I can, you know, overcome that and and and do well the next time I try it, because I'm, yeah, I got knocked down, yeah, everything seems like it's falling apart, but how am I going to rebuild after that? Right?
Speaker 1:So, it's like just trying to take a different approach, a different mindset and just that learning experience where it's just like, okay, I'm going to just get up, I'm going to dust myself off and I'm going to hit it harder this time, right, and I'm going to keep going and just embracing that strength right, and that resilience to overcome that feeling of failure, in a sense.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's how nature works. You've got to keep going, keep growing. You're not expected to be stagnant. You've got to get those goals and get toward them. You want change that, change that you want. You've got to work toward it.
Speaker 1:Work for it, I guess, and just know that failure isn't your ending, it's your becoming. Is is what you you know. Another way to look at it is just like no, it's. It's either redirection or it's it's reshaping you for something better, something.
Speaker 2:But it's up to you to to kind of figure it out, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Just don't feel. I mean I, I can't say, I have no place to say don't feel. But you know, fill all the feelings, fill all the emotions that come with failure and defeat, overcome it. And, you know, have your little pity party, Overcome it and just kick ass you know, just keep going, just go, yeah, exactly yeah.
Speaker 2:Have your little pity party and just keep going, because nobody wants to stay there. Right, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So anything else? Any last thoughts before we come to a close.
Speaker 2:I think that's good. I like it.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Just definitely yeah, what was it?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I just want to just close with this. You know the versions of you. You know failing is or.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry, we're going to have to cut that part off.
Speaker 1:But I just want to close with this. We're going to have to cut that part off, but I just want to close with this. So the versions of me that failed is the reason why I'm standing stronger today.
Speaker 2:The versions of you that failed are the reasons why you're standing strong today, Today yeah, and so I hope that resonates with our listeners. How would you break that down?
Speaker 1:so the versions of you that failed in the past are the reasons why you are here standing strong now right, because I feel like, if that didn't happen to me, um, it could created chaos as far as, like you know, ego or you know, all these other things that just don't look good gotcha and uh just making that, I don't know like it's a mindset thing, right?
Speaker 1:so just uh, overcoming, and as I evolve, as I change each year, each moment in time, you know, those failures shape me into who I am today and it's just. I feel like I'm repeating myself. No, but it's just. If I didn't go through that, I wouldn't know the things I know today. Right. And I wouldn't be as strong as I. I am because of, you know, not getting hit with those challenges and being able to overcome, and trying to figure out a plan to overcome those challenges Right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so the good and the bad.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:All the good and bad experiences that you've had in the past.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:You've taken them and you've learned from them, and they're the versions that are holding you up and now, today right like. Those are the ghosts that are, like, just holding you up.
Speaker 2:Like my past, like I, there are some aspects of my past that I don't like yeah, which is hard for me to talk about who I am on the podcast, because I've gone through my phases where I'm like cocky you, or where I act weird or you know, where I just don't express myself the way I want to, the way I mean to, that aligns with who I am inside and those I would say are the fillers of my life, is failing to like express myself properly.
Speaker 1:But that version, yeah, yeah, because of that experience, I am who I am today right more careful you know, a little more careful about what I say and do right, but yeah, but yeah, it just builds a whole, not a whole new, but it's like it just builds that it's one of those roots that, uh, that are keeping you alive right and grounded.
Speaker 1:Yeah oh yeah, and grounded for sure, there you go, yeah yeah, so, but so my next episode, what I will go into, is I want to talk about hope and how to just, you know, just continue to have that hope for what it is, and we'll discuss more when we get there next week.
Speaker 2:I'm excited, yeah, I'm excited. Cool, I'm excited. Hope. Yes, I like that. It's very simple. We'll break it down.
Speaker 1:But I'm going to just go into a deep dive about how you know. Just share some stories about me. What hope is?
Speaker 2:Yeah, what it means to have hope, have hope, why it's important to have hope, exactly, yeah, good, awesome, I like that, cool, cool. I'm just gonna start this and uh, that was awesome. Erica, good job, I like that. That was a good, a good, uh, good, first episode for what? Now thank you for your what now?
Speaker 1:yes, yeah when you talk about things you enjoy and love, I think it just it'll come naturally, naturally. And when you're talking about your what Now? Warren series and all the information, I've seen that spark and that enlightenment. So it's coming.
Speaker 2:I just got to organize, yeah, organize.
Speaker 1:And it'll come.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think so. All righty, erica, thank you, I'll see you.
Speaker 1:Thank you all for listening and we'll see you next week. Thank you, everybody.
Speaker 2:Bye-bye, bye-bye, bye-bye.
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