Family Therapy Podcast
Two cousins get together to discuss recent events & hot topics with insight from their generational differences and outlook on today's society & culture. Warren and Erica offer commentary on entertainment and music industry news. This podcast welcomes listeners a peak into their unique upbringing with hilarious stories and general life survival guides.
Family Therapy Podcast
Episode 8: Confidence in Setting Your Own Price
Warren opens up the show by expressing that he has to drive a lengthy distance to get a quality haircut, leading into Erica talking about making sacrifices to meet a hairdresser.
As a business owner setting your own price is very important, and shouldn’t be overlooked especially when there are opportunities to hand out discounts to friends and family.
The show turns to conversations about embracing one’s age after Warren shares that his barber informed him of his hair thinning out, probably due to massive amounts of overthinking.
hello, hello hey, how's it going, hey erica, how are you?
Speaker 1:doing good good, good yeah we made it through another week.
Speaker 2:We did, didn't we?
Speaker 1:it's a crazy one.
Speaker 2:It's always a crazy one it's always a crazy week, never a dull moment, for sure and I don't think it's gonna ever get quiet.
Speaker 1:It's just always gonna be. It's always gonna be active. So I was gonna be proactive. You know, whether it's stressful or fun or exciting, always something. Embrace it, yeah, embrace it right right embrace it. Why? Why be upset about it? You Exactly, you know, yeah, anyway, how are you?
Speaker 2:I'm doing good, just, you know, getting ready for the week, and that's about it. I'm going to try to incorporate I think I mentioned a couple episodes ago. I'm going to start Pilates.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:So just getting into the groove of that, and that's pretty much what I'm looking forward to, so I will have to keep you posted.
Speaker 1:So does that mean you already went to another Pilates class or are you working on going back?
Speaker 2:No, just working on going back for a second time. Yeah, perfect yeah.
Speaker 1:Cool, well, good job. I like that.
Speaker 2:Thank you.
Speaker 1:Well, since you're going to say that I got back to the gym too, oh nice, yeah, for a couple days, Good.
Speaker 2:Well, it's better than nothing, yeah.
Speaker 1:I was supposed to go today but I didn't. But I've been so busy Like DoorDash has been like so stupid.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so stupid.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. Like I mentioned before, it's oversaturated. There's too many drivers out there. Right so there's not enough cash to go around, there's not enough of that around, so you're killing me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're killing me. And do you try different areas?
Speaker 1:I do, I do, but I tend to just stay here in this area.
Speaker 2:That's good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I used to just stay here in this area. That's good. Yeah, I used to go up north, up to North Phoenix, because that's where I'm more familiar with. I don't really need the GPS up there in North Phoenix because I know my way around there so well, thanks to doing Lyft and Uber and DoorDash and Amazon.
Speaker 2:Because that's like a 45-minute drive right. It is so it doesn't make sense to drive all the way that way.
Speaker 1:It doesn't make sense to drive all the way that way it doesn't. But you know what I have to sometimes. Yeah, I don't know why, because my barber is in Glendale.
Speaker 2:Oh, wow.
Speaker 1:Way in Glendale, glendale, and like way in the avenue, it's like 75th Avenue, way up there. Yeah, and I have to go to him specifically because he's the only one that knows to cut my hair. Once you find a barber, it's for life. Yeah, exactly, it's for a long time. Exactly Because you'd be a man.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, female too, because it's like I moved to Arizona and I had somebody in New Mexico and it's like I'm not going to be driving back and forth to do my hair. You know, it's hard sometimes. So I went to one lady and then I went to her twice and that's when I had the copper color and then she decided to move to Las. Vegas. And I'm like bro, the copper color the copper like the red.
Speaker 1:Remember I had the red oh, you had the red, was it red? It was like orange, like copper, I don't know, I remember, but it was like well nice, had it down yeah it was like a few weeks, like a couple months ago, wasn't it right?
Speaker 2:okay, yeah, I remember so I went to um her. She did a really great job don't get me wrong, wrong. But then she moved, you know, and I was like, oh great, you know, now on a mission again, my hair was getting like growing out because my hair grows so fast. So trying to find somebody else to do my hair. Finally found somebody, but because of my schedule. It was a mission just trying to get in to do my hair schedule. It was a mission just trying to get in to do my hair.
Speaker 1:So finally made the time I actually had to call into work that day. Oh yeah, make it work. Yeah, and uh got it done, so now um yeah sometimes you just have to make that, make that sacrifice right if, if, if the hair has to get done it has to get done, it had to to yeah with my haircut. I just got my haircut too. I had to go. I'm broke, but I had to go. I can't be broken, ugly broken, tarzan. I got to be broken.
Speaker 2:Presentable.
Speaker 1:Presentable, yeah, so I had to get better.
Speaker 2:It's expensive, but I had to get better. It's just the cost these days. It it's just the cost these days it's for anything really Like hair. Back in the day I used to pay about $250.
Speaker 1:Oh, my God.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Oh, my God.
Speaker 2:But you're going to freak. I'm glad I'm not a girl, yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm so glad I have to deal with this.
Speaker 2:Well, I'm glad you're sitting down, because this last time I did my hair I paid $600.
Speaker 1:Oh my God it doubled my hair. I paid 600. Oh my god it doubled. That's so crazy. How isn't that robbery, isn't that?
Speaker 2:I feel like it but. I mean it's the the cost of product, right, I guess? And then their time and they're providing a service. So it's like, okay, I appreciate the service that you're providing. It just sucks that inflation is high and that's what they're charging these days.
Speaker 1:It's like normal right. Yeah, it's just a little like it takes me back 600 bucks for hair, for hair. One of the things I learned this past few years is to not be afraid to set your own price, because you know how much you're worth, as long as it's not overwhelmingly large.
Speaker 2:Right, like be realistic right then you're gonna.
Speaker 1:You have a right to feel gross and disgusting to be charging that much money right, but if you're paying, if you're um undercharging, you're cutting yourself short, you're disrespecting yourself because you know your worth, and just to charge less for somebody, for a friend, it's just taking it from you you know, set your price where it's supposed to be.
Speaker 2:Right, regardless of family, friends, whatever. Like yeah, if you want to give a little discount, like cool. You know, do what you got to do, a little discount Right. Because you have to understand that you're taking that's like going to my store or my house and taking my stuff and leaving with exactly stealing my product stealing my stuff exactly and and family members and friends shouldn't expect that discount. Right, right, exactly, yes, yes, yeah, yes, that does yes um, because it puts you in an awkward place it really does you have to.
Speaker 1:I mean, it puts you in a place where you have to like be firm and affirmative, like whoa. You know, this is my business. I have to make my profit here. This, this is how I live. This is how I'm making money.
Speaker 2:So, just like tattoo artists too, it's like you go and you get a tattoo and they're charging X amount of dollars, and then there's a tip that you need to.
Speaker 1:It's customary, right? You wouldn't want to leave a tip, it's an artist.
Speaker 2:You're going to an artist. It's just an art of your body with a tattoo an artist with hair, just like when we were selling herbalife. We were selling a product and you know, there was certain people that, oh, just because we're family, I'll give it to me. For what you get it for and and that's not right because yeah it again.
Speaker 2:It robs us of our profit. In what we put into it, we invested into ourselves, just like they invested into their services that they provide, and you should pay what, what it's worth for what you get.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you pay for what? For what you uh, will you bargain for? That's what you pay for, um, and I'm not saying it's not okay to not give a discount to your friends and family, because that's, that's a thing of friends and family discount. You hear, you hear it every time. I mean all over the place right and it's a small discount, it's like 10 or like five percent or like give me nothing or a hug, just yeah, you know whatever you, whatever you're feeling you know, or whatever you can give that day.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know, because sometimes there's going to be days where you're just like you're overwhelmed or you have so much clients where it's just like yeah, like I can give you a client. I give you kind of like the oprah show, you get it, you get a discount.
Speaker 1:You don't, she does. You don't, yeah, he does. Exactly, yeah, um't, yeah, he does.
Speaker 2:Exactly, yeah, so there's going to be times like that, but then there's going to be other times where it's just like you know you need the service or you need the money, or whatever the case. Things life happens. So don't expect it is is my point. I guess. Don't expect that hand me, or what is it?
Speaker 1:don't expect that privilege. Um yeah, and I think it's. It's the responsibility of the business owner or the whoever selling what, to evaluate your like, your, your, your numbers to, to see what's an actual discount where it's not hurting you in the long run ready for a break?
Speaker 2:yeah, let's take a break before.
Speaker 1:I say anything stupid. Okay, we'll be right back. So let's go back to the haircut thing.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:So, like I said, I stick with one barber, or I try to so I go to my barber. I found one here. He's in Glendale, a real big Persian guy, but he was looking at my hair and he's like man Warren, your hair's thinning out Like your hair's thinning on top, you know. He said you think too much, you think too much. I was like, no, that's not it. But damn, thanks for letting me know. I don't want to hear that. I don't want to hear it. No one wants to hear it. The hair's thinning out, it made me feel so small. But he's not wrong, though my hair is thinning out on top.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think it just happens.
Speaker 1:At 33?.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I guess I mean it's just well. Did you watch the Menendez brothers?
Speaker 1:Is that like a trial?
Speaker 2:That's the trial. Yeah, that's the brothers that killed their parents.
Speaker 1:I didn't hear. I mean, I heard of them but I don't know their story.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, well, I was scrolling and I seen like all these videos on TikTok of them, like of the actors for them, and I was like what the heck? Who are these guys like? I kind of heard stories here and there but I wanted to know, okay, what like what happened? So I turned on Netflix and I started watching their show, and not the original, like the original brothers, but the new one. I guess they just recently did, I don't know. It might be also, you know, you could correct me if I'm wrong, but anyways, um, I believe one of the brothers was about 21 the other one was like 18 ish wow but the yeah, so young, um, but the 21 year old started losing his hair, which is you know.
Speaker 2:So you say you know 33, but then I don't know why that popped in my head like because some people have it earlier in their life.
Speaker 1:They started losing their hair earlier in their life.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, just genetics. So, um, he had, you know, it was like the whole, I guess like donald trump, you know, like the whole toupee, or is that what it's called toupee like the top. I think that's the hair piece that goes on top so he had that like he was, so he lost all that hair where he had to get a toupee and so nobody really knew about it.
Speaker 2:It was just him and his dad that knew him and his brother were close. I mean their story. If you have time, watch it. It was just him and his dad that knew him and his brother were close. I mean their story. If you have time, watch it. It's very disturbing, but the show is addicting it's amazingly disturbing.
Speaker 1:It's so bad. You can't help a can't.
Speaker 2:You can't look away exactly it's weird, it's and I'm just like it's jaw-dropping too, like what, what, what, what, what happened? Like what? Like I'm over there, like yeah, it was crazy, but anyways, he had a Dupain and one day, because they lived in a very abusive it was just a not healthy family, very toxic. I don't know if it was a dad or somebody pulled it, pulled it or the mom, I can't remember, but anyways they pulled it and the brother was like what the hell? Like he freaked, like when did that happen? Like I'm used to seeing you with hair and now it's gone and he had like two little like I don't know if it was like screws, I don't know if it like screws on or like clips in or I don't know, but it looked like two little like clips in his hair, like indented, I don't know like it was weird like frickenstein kind of yeah, like little knobs where you clip it in, I guess yeah you know, I I would think it was like the dermals.
Speaker 2:They do have you ever those is that what they're called when they do the piercing in your skin yeah, so you know yeah, so you know this.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've seen those, yeah.
Speaker 2:And a lot of people are doing it by their eye.
Speaker 1:That's too much for me. Me too, personally, I wouldn't get close enough to kiss that.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:It would be too distracting. I'd be like reaching to kiss like a frog. Yeah, like what is? I'd be like like reaching to kiss like a frog.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Like what is wrong, you know, like yeah, and it's like it's a like I have a nose ring, but that's like nose. That's like. You know, people do lip. That's eyebrows, that's fine, that's common but they're doing it like ask me oh, you got a piercing? I'm like no, it's straight up, mole bro. Nope, not this time. Yeah, not this time, but um, but people do it right there in the exact same spot. I have it as uh and it look it's in it's inside and I'm like how in the hell, why?
Speaker 1:why, though?
Speaker 2:I don't understand. People do it in back of their neck doesn't it like yeah, I've seen that.
Speaker 1:Doesn't it like creep you out? Aren't you scared of like bumping into something and it shifting inside your body somewhere?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean, I know it's pierced in, but what does it pierce to your inner skin? Wow, I don't know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know what they do. It's like I. That's just too much for me.
Speaker 1:That's wild.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so that is my rant on the whole hair loss. It took me on a journey of watching the show.
Speaker 1:Yeah. And then I just don't know what I'm going to do if I lose all my hair.
Speaker 2:You're going to have to get a toupee.
Speaker 1:I'm going to have to embrace bald-like activities. I'm going to have to just be that boring guy. I'm gonna have to just spend my evenings at the library and just sit there like a bald man, but anyway stereotype um I'm not too worried actually because, um, I'm a tall person and not many people can see on top of my head. They could just see, like this part, you know yeah the fade part, the important part. That's all they see. You know, unless you're taller than me, then you can see or you can wear a hat.
Speaker 2:I mean, if you, I think that's what I think that's what caused.
Speaker 1:It caused my. I used to wear hats a lot really a lot. But when I was younger, my mom would always tell me like I mean, I would always hear like don't wear hats too much, you lose your hair. Or they also said like don't dye your hair too much, you lose your hair, it's gonna fall out yeah but my mom and I told my mom and she was like no, well, no, because your grandpa has a full head of hair still. Yeah, it's like to this day.
Speaker 2:So you know, you're fine, don't worry well then, can't you take like vitamins or something that help with hair growth?
Speaker 1:I don't think I would. I don't think I'm, I don't think I'm that person to take those kind of measures. I think I'm more. Just embrace it. Yeah, absolutely, and I think that's not a bad thing. I think we should embrace getting older. We should, I think we should embrace our age. I know people my age, even older men, that go through lengths to stay and look and feel young, like men older than me.
Speaker 1:so men 35 and older going and getting like they're getting skin treatments, getting hair treatments and doing this spa days and shit. I mean it's fine, whatever do you, but I think I think for me that's a little much yeah especially being like a man right a man, you know, it's just uh, there are some things I just won't do, right, you know yeah, I can agree with that.
Speaker 2:You know it just to each his own. I feel like society, too, puts all this pressure on women where it's like you have to look a certain way you have to be thick. You have to have a big ass, you have to have big boobs.
Speaker 2:You have to wear the flapper eyelashes or helicopter wings, I don't know, and I'm not that person, like I've never been the type of person where I'm just gonna do all that. You know, I do get like facials and stuff because skin is important, especially in the climate we live in, but I've never been the type to wear makeup, um, just because my mom didn't allow it. Um, I was in school. And then another reason is like I became a mother at a young age and so my focus was not getting all fine.
Speaker 2:It was taking care of my kids and make sure they were taken care of, they were dressed well, they were cleaned up. You know, like my kids were my life, my world.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So I wasn't going to be looking. All you know.
Speaker 1:Looking all fine for the club that night and my kids are running around with mocos. They're all dirty that's what bothers me a lot. I hate seeing that people have kids and they leave them abandoned with somebody else while they go and have fun. It's like no man, I don't like kids at all. Kids aren't my thing. I don't like kids at all. I mean, I don't. You know, kids aren't my thing. I don't see kids, I just don't. But I would. I feel like I know a few things.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:If I were to have one all of a sudden. You know I would. There are some things that I just know are given Like I'm not going to act stupid and try to be out there being all you know spreading it. You know being stupid. One of my kids at home with my mom, right you know like how, how ridiculous can you get?
Speaker 2:yeah, how ridiculous society's just, it's just different. It's different from you know, a few years ago, even just it's. It's hard to be. It's. I feel like it's hard to be a female I'm. I really like and appreciate those that are coming out, like Pamela Anderson Lee. Did you see her at the Met Gala last week? And she's embracing, like you said her age.
Speaker 2:She's beautiful and she's just changed up her style, and people like that are inspiring because it's like okay, I don't have to look this certain way, because it does create insecurities, too, within women, because you go out and I don't know. It's weird, it's a weird place, it's a weird world we live in.
Speaker 1:Pamela Anderson did a 180. She used to be the one out there with the looks.
Speaker 2:Getting the looks, the body, body, the hair, the everything and now she's like.
Speaker 1:I mean, she is older and you know it goes away, but still like she's she's embracing that embracing that still like her body, is still I guess you know, yeah, and there's a few others too.
Speaker 2:I just can't think of them now.
Speaker 1:Alicia Keys went through a natural phase.
Speaker 2:She is stunning that girl. Yeah, she's good, I think she's beautiful?
Speaker 1:Yeah, she is. But yeah, I guess, just embrace your age, don't try to fight it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's natural and that's something that I'm learning, actually, because I'm aging and I'm just like, oh my gosh, yeah, yeah, just embrace it. Don't, don't, don't try to reverse it, you know it's, it's not your place to do that.
Speaker 1:You know, just I, I do kind of look forward to just being like an old wizard, you know, like the old man that knows everything yeah and I feel like I'm gonna live a long, a long life like I. I was telling my cousin the other day, our cousin the other day, I was like man, I'm gonna be stuck here in this earth all to 105. Yeah, it's suffering all the way through. That's what's on the plan for me.
Speaker 2:Life is. What is life without these different obstacles and challenges, right Like suffering and pain and these all these different things? Um, they say that you really don't start living until you're in your 40s, which is that's when you become who you really want to be, I guess.
Speaker 1:Assuming that you've gone through the expected trials and tribulations, which they're always going to be there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they're always going to be there. But in your 40s you've done the whole what you should have done.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you've done the whole young thing. You've done the whole what you should have done. Yeah, you've done the whole young thing. You've done the whole teenage thing, the whole young adult thing, the whole.
Speaker 2:Yeah, just everything where it's just like okay, now I'm in my 40s, you have a clearer vision, you're able to do more, you're wiser, um, and just work towards what, what you want to do, and when you get to your 40s, it's just you're just in a better place, I guess.
Speaker 1:It's like a trading point. You've gone through enough life to know what you want and what you don't like, how to react.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I didn't mean to cut you off there, but just how to overcome challenges. And I think it's more so of your reaction, how you react to certain circumstances that come up so I mean, that's what?
Speaker 1:yeah, yeah, exactly. Yep. What an episode. What an episode. We went from talking about discounts to hair and getting bald and embracing your age. What else did we cover?
Speaker 2:A lot A show.
Speaker 1:Anyway, we went through a lot, but that's what family therapy is.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:That's what it is. We're going to talk about random stuff. If you don't want to listen, go away. Go away, be nice. Yes, want to listen, go away, go away, be nice I'm trying to be nice, I'm trying to be nice, I'm really. I, like I told you earlier, I want to try to bring myself out right. This podcast I want yes, you are yes, because I hardly ever do that on social media or with anybody in in real life. You know, this podcast is like my platform, our platform to just to let loose I want to try to not limit myself yeah, a whole lot family therapy.
Speaker 1:That's what it is. Yes, cool, cool. Well, I think that's about it for today yeah, that's a wrap for me that's good yeah yeah all right, that was Family Therapy, episode seven or eight, I don't remember, but anyway, okay, erica, I will see you next week.
Speaker 2:We'll see you next week.
Speaker 1:All right, Bye everybody.
Speaker 2:Bye-bye, bye. Thank you for listening. Bye Thank you.