Family Therapy Podcast
Two cousins get together to discuss recent events & hot topics with insight from their generational differences and outlook on today's society & culture. Warren and Erica offer commentary on entertainment and music industry news. This podcast welcomes listeners a peak into their unique upbringing with hilarious stories and general life survival guides.
Family Therapy Podcast
Episode 12: Breathless in New Mexico
Ever notice how your body feels different when you travel to a higher elevation? Erica shares her recent experience visiting New Mexico, where despite having grown up there, she suddenly struggled with breathing difficulties. The conversation flows into a celebration at Canyon Lake for her son's birthday, complete with last-minute boat rentals and fishing adventures that created perfect family memories.
Warren jumps in with his own physical challenge - a mysterious back injury that struck while simply bending over during a shopping trip. This leads to a candid discussion about fitness journeys and the shared frustration with personal trainers who rely on computer-generated workout plans instead of providing genuine guidance and accountability. Both hosts agree: there's no substitute for someone who watches your form and pushes you beyond what you'd do alone.
Stay tuned until the end for information about their premium content, including an upcoming deep dive episode on traditions and cultures available to subscribers of Family Therapy Plus. Whether you're a longtime listener or first-timer, this episode delivers the perfect blend of humor, insight, and relatable everyday experiences.
This episode of Family Therapy contains strong language and adult themes. Hey Warren, how's it going?
Speaker 2:Hey, good, how are you?
Speaker 1:I'm doing well, thanks.
Speaker 2:Good Happy Monday. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1:It's been. It's always a a long week for me.
Speaker 2:I feel like always a long week, always a long weekend, huh yeah, exactly and, like I said last time, you know it's, it's always going to be something yeah you know the weeks are going to be filled with nonsense and craziness fun yeah, and we just gotta just keep it going, just keep it going yeah, I am a little congested.
Speaker 1:I don't know if you can hear it in my voice but, I um went to new mexico and the for some reason I was having a hard time, like, with my breathing this time and it's so crazy because I mean, the elevation is real high there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's, I guess, harder to breathe, um in albuquerque and in just new mexico in general.
Speaker 1:Yeah, um, but I've never experienced that. I have never experienced that, so it was kind of weird really.
Speaker 2:Yeah, when I first moved here from new mexico the first week or week and a half, I was like having the worst headaches ever, ever, ever I don't know if it was because, like the elevation, like you were saying, or wait here in arizona yeah, like when I first, like the day I got here, like the next day I was just like for like a week and a half I got this bad headache, like I was congested too, like sick almost yeah, for like a week and a half do you think?
Speaker 1:because I do get headaches when it's extremely hot here.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But that's just like a norm for me because I have headaches every freaking day. They have gone down a little bit because of therapy and medicine and stuff, but other than that, like when it's a super hot day, I get really bad headaches.
Speaker 2:Really.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but it's weird because so we're at like sea level, I believe.
Speaker 2:Our elevation's really low here. Low, so that means under sea level. I don't understand.
Speaker 1:So the quality of breathing and stuff should be easier on us because I guess the higher elevation it's harder for some people. It's harder for some people. That's why people from like other places that have that sea level or are from like sea level places I guess when they visit new mexico.
Speaker 2:It's hard for them to breathe because it's so high oh yeah so you would just have to look into that sea level is like over the ocean, right like high off the water. I guess, guess, I guess. I don't know, I'm not good with that stuff Me neither I didn't pay attention in school at all.
Speaker 1:Yeah, at all. Well, even if I didn't even remember, I feel like I was in school 100 years ago with the dinosaurs.
Speaker 2:But even using the word sea level, I feel like that's like oh, you went to school, Look at you sea level. I don't even know what that means, because there's no sea around me. So what is it?
Speaker 1:Well, California is right there.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Just our elevation is just lower is what it means.
Speaker 2:And New Mexico is higher, ours is lower. Yeah, mexico is higher. So when you go to New Mexico, you're driving up. Right, you're in the mountains and higher I go up when I drive there, you know, I feel like I go up and then down, yeah, and then down, down, down.
Speaker 1:Well, we are in a valley, so Over there is.
Speaker 2:Yeah, new Mexico is all plains, just plain, like right.
Speaker 1:Like just it depends Like plain fields.
Speaker 2:I feel New Mexico is like you could go outside and look as far as like far away, like it's a big plain here, it's like there's mountains everywhere, so you couldn't just like go outside and look.
Speaker 1:Does that make sense? Yeah, and I think it's the opposite for me.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Because it's like here, I don't see too many mountains. No, Like just like four right, there's like four peaks, superstition Mountains, yeah.
Speaker 2:And like just like four right, there's like four peaks, superstition mountains, yeah, and then there's two others and there's camelback and there's south mountain, and then there's north mountain and then there's thunderbird mountain there's, I mean in new mexico. Like when you're driving in new mexico it's like like long, like just well, yeah, open space you can see, like so far, but yeah, that like a plane. Do you know what plane is like?
Speaker 1:a great well I say like, okay, so it depends on new mexico, because when you're going, I believe, south of new mexico it's like that, like just nothing but dirt and bushes and no mountains like straight all the way. Yeah, nothing we could see up north the same thing, but then it's like and then you get into the trees and the oh yeah, oh yeah. Well, not the forest part, yeah, but but the plains like the.
Speaker 2:Then you get into the trees and the oh yeah, oh yeah. Well, not the forest part, yeah, but but the plains like the plane, but even when you're driving from gallup to albuquerque, it's all mountain like it's plains. But I mean there's hills, but I could still see like way over there.
Speaker 1:I feel like, yeah, you know what I'm saying isn't that crazy how our, um, how we see differently the world, our, our what is it perspective? Yes, yeah, it is crazy. Pretty neat, though it is crazy yeah.
Speaker 2:But that's what this podcast is about. We're about exploring our differences right, yes, exactly. What else happened to you throughout the week?
Speaker 1:So we went to the lake, we went to Canyon Lake. It was super fun. Oh yeah, yeah, we went to the lake, we went to canyon lake. It was super fun oh, yeah, um yeah, we went. We went there, uh, rented a boat um, celebrated my son's birthday and, uh, we had a really good time.
Speaker 2:But it was exhausting yeah, yeah, like, just like just um, you know uh just getting things together, yeah, carrying the ice chest and then we.
Speaker 1:It was like last minute because we were there, we're fishing, and there was like a lot of people on boats and and the kayaks, I think they're called or whatever. And so I was like, oh, that looks really fun. What the heck like. I should have rented a boat or something.
Speaker 1:You know yeah so, um, I pulled up their website. Thank goodness I had reception, because we're kind of like by the bridge and uh, they so happened to have one in like 20 minutes available oh nice and so I was jumping on it and then I forgot my card and I was like shit, how am I gonna rent it? Like I don't have my atm card. And then, good thing it's like auto saved inaved in my phone.
Speaker 1:Oh okay, so then just put that in there and rented the boat. We took two vehicles and so I told them we have 15 minutes, we have to get to the marina, or whatever it's called, so I could rent the boat. I said so, pack up your shit, let's go.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And two of the boys were over there in the lake swimming. The other two were fishing, I don't know where. The other one was just kind of back and forth me. I was on a mission, trying to rent the boat. So I told them I'm gonna go, you guys, load up, meet me there. So by the time I got there everything was good. They pulled up. I said, okay, they're waiting for us. We took all our shit down, loaded the boat and we're on our way.
Speaker 2:So it was perfect, perfect timing, good timing, like meant to be Right on. That's how you know it's meant to be. Yeah, that's how you know. Okay, I did the right thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:It worked out.
Speaker 1:No frustration, it worked out, yeah. And then because it was my son's birthday birthday they threw in a tube, which usually runs about 60 bucks. They said, oh damn, yeah, it's expensive. Uh, for a tube, yeah, but um they had a blast on the lake.
Speaker 1:Um, yeah, but my birthday boy, he, he loves fishing. It's like I feel like we're always in water with him ever since he was a kid. Yeah, because we would go to california every year like on family vacations, and then I would take him to disneyland universal and they would like be okay with it, but they'd rather be in the ocean or in the pool so my kids are fish, yeah I think they were born fish? I don't know interesting their past life perhaps, perhaps.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think I'm the opposite, like I was always just like no, not water for me.
Speaker 1:Like I just not, it's just a dry yeah exactly and um yeah, so memories were popping up and we're either in a boat or at a lake or ocean or somewhere, somewhere with water every year for his birthday, so it was pretty yeah pretty cool stuff. So, um, he didn't. I don't feel like he did enough fishing, because we would try to fish and the boat was like rocking with the the waves oh yeah um, we couldn't find.
Speaker 1:We we did find a good spot, but then the boys the other two boys were getting impatient. So I was like, oh man, we got to do a redo. Maybe just me and you and I just to sit there and fish. Cause. That's like, oh man, he's, he just turned 24, but he has such an old soul. I can't wake up early, listen to a podcast, like if we had newspapers still these days. I'm pretty sure we do.
Speaker 2:He'd be sitting there in the kitchen reading one yeah With a cup of coffee.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so that's his personality.
Speaker 2:I see that in him. Yeah, very serious, very like. Yeah, like I said, an old-fashioned soul.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then the other one. Do you already know that? So that's kind of how my weekend went. Oh, and then we had to travel back to New Mexico. Like I said, for some reason I was having trouble breathing because of the elevation or whatever. My body's changing, or I'm just so used to the climate here now. And then, yeah, I was just trying to visit everybody's family Well, not everybody's family, but my family, his family. That's always fun, because we only had two days and then drove back and here we are.
Speaker 2:Just trying to get it all in. Huh yeah, Get it all in Family time, vacation time, birthday time. Yeah, exactly Trying to get it all in.
Speaker 1:All in? Yeah, but yeah, it was a very productive busy week, but no complaints.
Speaker 2:I was door dashing, I was doing a shopping delivery and I had to run inside Bashas to just shop for some stuff, get some breakfast stuff, and then I don't know what I did, but when I was done, at the cash out, at the self-checkout, when I bent over to get my bag or my shopping whatever, and I was done, I bent over some kind of weird way and I hurt my back, my lower back. I don't know what happened, but it hurt oh my gosh.
Speaker 1:So if somebody.
Speaker 2:I don't know what happened, I don't know what, what, what it was, but it hurt to where, like the whole day, like it was just a sharp pain in my lower back oh my goodness all day to where I had to like walk stiff, like up like this and not move, like walk like that into the store. Because if I worked like around my back just a little bit, it would like like I don't know, burn or like just like trigger that irritated or inflammation or whatever.
Speaker 2:I don't know what it was if I stretched the muscle or if I bent some kind of weird way, but my lower back was like all, just like tensed up I had to walk, I had to walk so stiff all day and throughout the day.
Speaker 2:You just loosened up oh, that's I'm better now, but it lasted a whole fucking day and it was. It was a weird. I had to walk. Yeah, I had to walk around the weird like up, like this, and maybe you can't tell I'm walking weird, but to me it still was like that's just not your norm, right exactly yeah, yeah so I don't know what that was. I don't know what that was, but I just uh came home stretched I don't know, you didn't take no tylenol, ibuprofen, anything no, no, I felt.
Speaker 2:I felt it was more of like, uh, like I just pulled something yeah, in my back, but I'm not great with that stuff, though. I don't know about the human body and the muscles and what to stretch.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:I'd rather just get a personal trainer to just tell me what to do.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:You know, yeah, because when you pay for a personal trainer, you pay them so much money for the month like, say, $600 for the month I feel like you just Like you're paying for that body. I guess you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Yeah, for them too. I feel like a personal trainer is like kind of easier on the mind because we have so much going on. So it's like, okay, I'm giving you this amount of money so I don't have to think or put much effort into this. As far as like coming up with a plan right is like coming up with a plan right. So it's like I'm paying you to come up with a plan for me that I will then put in the effort to do right.
Speaker 2:Does that make sense?
Speaker 1:yeah, so and it's, it's, um, I think it helps with, like, stress and all these other things, because, again, you don't have to you're paying somebody to do it for you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're paying somebody to do it for you, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:And I've had hired a couple personal trainers before and I was happy with one and not with the other one, because some people do their own, some personal trainers do their own, have their own ways of working right.
Speaker 2:There was this one personal trainer that I paid a lot of money for and when I was there, I I thought of it like this, like I'm gonna give you this money and I'm kind of like just buying my my, my way, and kind of like, um, like, say, if I paid him for three months and in three months you could do a lot. In three months, you really can, you could do a lot if you're, if you. And then what he would do, which bothered me to the core I would meet him at the gym and then he would plug in all my stats, all my stuff, into his tablet and it would print off these meal plans and these workouts and everything, and he would just give it to me right there and he'd be like okay, you could do this and do this and do this. And I'm like no, dude, I'm paying you, watch me. And like I need your expert opinion. I don't need a computer to just put in all my numbers, my height and my weight, and then have it generate like a workout for me.
Speaker 2:I feel like I could do that at home right on my own for free you know, why am I gonna pay somebody hundreds of dollars to do that for me in front of me at the gym and then insist on days where I'm not, where he's not going to be there? I'm like no dude, you're here to watch me. I paid you because I I told you that I have a weird body. I move weird. I feel like I do. Am I doing my squats right? Am I doing this right?
Speaker 2:you need to show me you know, I told you this in the beginning you need to show me. I have no background in this stuff, at least not professionally, so I can't really help myself, you know? I mean I could, but but that's why I'd rather have that external professional with me, but that's kind of like where I lost my faith in personal trainers yeah, I don't know how you feel about that no, I've actually had that same experience.
Speaker 1:So if I feel like and this is just my, my own opinion on personal trainers so if you're looking online and they're like, hey, you know I can do this and that, and you're like, oh, okay, it seems appealing, right, and then you subscribe or you, okay, so you, I want you to be my personal trainer. Same shit. They plug in your information in the computer. Okay, here's the meal plan.
Speaker 1:Here's your workouts done yeah, and I just paid 200 for no, like we can do that on our own website, we can google it, we can ai whatever you know um. But then I've come across personal trainers, like just people in the gym are very passionate about this and they're like, hey, um, let's work out together. And so I've actually had that experience for free because, excuse me, because they're very passionate about working out and helping others. So those were the ones like, I guess um unofficial personal trainers, you would say, because they didn't want no money, they just wanted to help to help and they wanted to see your results and that was their satisfaction, or their accomplishment and their, you know, whatever.
Speaker 1:So I've been very lucky to come across a couple of those people and they've helped me get to my meet, some of my goals, you know, and even here in Arizona I was very fortunate to find somebody that she was very willing to just help me, give me a meal plan, gave me workouts hey, you know I have a busy schedule and this was all free. She didn't ask for a dime. Um. Gave me a meal plan, gave me um workout, like I said, and she was like I can meet you maybe once a week, but she was like and when we did work out, I already knew the forms, stuff like that from previous trainers.
Speaker 1:So when I would meet with her it was just more like um doing like max sets, like let's push you to your limit, we're gonna go crazy today yeah where it's like you're not going to be able to walk out of the gym, and which is good, because I can't do that daily or even like once a week because I don't have the support. Like to spot me like if I wanted to go like 200 pounds on squats or whatever. I didn't have nobody there to support and like help me because I would probably fall over, look like an idiot, you know. So that's what, that's what she would do yeah, see me, I wouldn't have.
Speaker 2:I don't, I wouldn't have the willpower to be like okay type of 200 pound squats now no I would opt to just leave. I would just leave yeah I need somebody to be like no warren, you're staying right here, I'm picking up that bar exactly, that's the accountability that I need yeah, if not, I know I won't right I.
Speaker 2:I won't ever go to a gym on my own and walk out with wobbly legs. I would never push myself. I just know it. I just know. I'm not saying I wouldn't do it, but I just know from my, from my actions and who I am, how lazy, lazy I am. I would never. I need somebody there with me to be like okay, 10, 10 squats Like hold your hand or you know.
Speaker 2:I guess yeah, hold my hand, hold my hand. Yep, hold my hand, I do need that, I do, I'm not even kidding you, hold my hand while I do these squats.
Speaker 1:And that's how I, when I started, that's exactly how I was like am I doing it? Like crazy? Yeah, and and because of that, it made me very independent. Now I can walk into a gym and I can feel confident and I can do the exercises by myself, don't need anybody. Um, but my downfall is just getting there. You know, um, when I moved to arizona, I just stopped working out everything. Now, um, I think I mentioned last week, um, I'm back into the gym. Because my colleague, she was like hey, you know, I'm tired of of being like overweight, I don't feel good. It's a health week at work or not health week, but it's like they do challenges around this time. She said I don't want to join one, but let's do one unofficial. And I was like, yeah, absolutely. And she, same thing, hired a personal trainer. What did they do? Plugged in all her stuff in the computer and then just forgot forgot about her.
Speaker 1:And she's like, well, what do I do? And I said, well, I can train you. I'm not a professional, but from what I've learned and from my results in the past, I said let's go. And so she's so awesome because she don't complain. She shows up even on days where I'm just like, hey, I'm super busy. Okay, well, take your time, but we're still going. So, holding each other accountable and just helping her get through this, like it's very cool to see. So I feel really happy that I found somebody that has that type of personality and motivation.
Speaker 1:And trust me to help her meet her health goals to the best of my ability, and that's what I told her. Disclaimer you know I'm not a professional, but I have done this in the past when we did the Herbalife Nutrition way back in the day, and I just have basic knowledge, so it's been good yeah see, so like I know some things, right, but not everything right I don't know a lot of things actually.
Speaker 2:That's why I prefer to have somebody there with me yeah, I don't know if I'm doing it right. I don't know if I'm squatting right, yeah, or if I'm like dead lifting right. I've never done dead lifts before. That's probably why my back was all fucked up, because I I bent over as if I was gonna do a deadlift oh, I don't know why, because my knees were all fucked up.
Speaker 2:But I was in my troubles, I was in my sweat, I didn't care, I was just there, you know yeah but that one, oh it hurt. It was like sharp pain in my lower back have you seen those videos online? Yeah, I hate that and then they get all mad because somebody walks past. But dude, you're filming in a public area. People are going to walk in front of your camera. They have and this is in a movie studio yeah do that at home exactly that that shit bugs me.
Speaker 1:That's the straight up like douchebaggery that I just cannot deal with but going back to the gym and then we'll get to the truck. But, um, not only are people like modeling, trying to record and take pictures, but there's also the funny videos where people go in and they have no clue on how the machines work and they're just being super like not intentionally, but it's just super silly and funny because they're just like flopping around and for the people that record those people. You're wrong for that.
Speaker 1:Right, yeah, I've seen some that are like funny, like hilarious and I'm like, oh god, as long as I'm not doing that, I think I'm all good. Who knows, I might be in a video out there doing stupid shit something stupid. That's what I hate about today's society. Everything's on a fucking camera. Like can you just stop?
Speaker 2:Everything's got to be recorded.
Speaker 1:Yes, but I did notice now and if you do go into EOS. Eos whatever EOS. Yeah, not too many people have their phones recording and stuff like that, because they do have on the mirrors that. I guess it's like a violation now or you can get in trouble for it.
Speaker 1:So it's like do not take pictures in the locker room, like you're not allowed to take pictures oh, they still do, erica well, I know they still do, but I don't see it as much because I yeah, I just don't see it as much like people recording have tripods, I what all kinds of shit. I'm like yeah, in eos I see cameras out, of course, and I'm pretty sure people we took a picture, you know my, my friend and I but it's not like we're sitting there and doing all.
Speaker 2:It was like real quick and okay yeah, that's not what you're there to do.
Speaker 1:Just take a picture and go yeah, you know I mean move on, but don't sit there and take a few and take more than videos showing the whole gym and right.
Speaker 2:If you're taking pictures more than you're working out, then that's when you should.
Speaker 1:That's horrible. Yeah, just leave. Just leave exactly not not you, but anybody anybody if you find yourself in the gym and you're taking more pictures than workouts go yeah, leave, yeah, right now, just gotta yeah, exactly, and don't go in jeans or shuffles or oh my gosh, that drives me nuts. Oh, really there have been.
Speaker 2:A couple times I was like I'm supposed to go on my troubles and those ones there oh, my and I do sometimes, and then it was one time until I was like, I forgot my shorts yeah but I really want to go to the gym for some reason.
Speaker 2:When I forget something like a towel, or when I forget my shoes or I forget my headphones, I want to go to the gym. For some reason, when I forget something like a towel, or when I forget my shoes or I forget my headphones, I want to go to the gym. I want to go. Damn, I was hoping to go today and then I just, yeah, I just either don't go or just make it an excuse, but yeah, in my jeans.
Speaker 2:I've thought about going, but I was like, no, I don't want to look stupid. Well, not stupid. There have been some people that come to my insanity class and zumba class in their jeans too sometimes I can't and I, I'll you know, I, what are you gonna say as an instructor like?
Speaker 1:right, I mean whatever, and maybe that's their comfort for me right, exactly for me no yeah, I can't even wear jeans on a regular night day. I hate jeans like yeah I wore them when I have to, but that's because I have to look like you know they're hot.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they're hot, especially here oh I hate jeans.
Speaker 1:They're just so uncomfortable they are uncomfortable.
Speaker 2:And then?
Speaker 1:um, yeah, but um, back to the trucks, the big trucks, oh my, it's so funny because I have never seen like a tall person or a big person get out of a big truck lifted truck. It's always a lord farquaad it's always a hobbit yeah. So I'm like, are they trying, to like, compensate for something?
Speaker 2:obviously. Obviously they're compensating for something I'm like oh my gosh.
Speaker 1:But yeah, it's ridiculous total yeah, some look cool, some are chill, others are like what are you doing?
Speaker 2:that looks like a fucking what bothers me the most with the big old ass ship trucks that are like a ship is those people want to park at the fucking door. If I had a big truck like that which I don't mind them, Some are nice I would like a big truck.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Whatever, but I'm not going to park at the fucking door at Walmart, I'm not going to park at the fucking handicaps, but I'm going to park far away because I know just common decency, I know I'm in the way, yeah I'm in the way, my truck's in the way it's a big old truck, it's a mobile home. I shouldn't park it near all these little tiny cars. I'm gonna park it, you know, kind of far right. Exactly I agree. Does that make sense?
Speaker 1:yeah, I mean, I have my car and I still park far, just because I don't want nobody to hit or ding my doors, you know what I mean like yeah, I've stopped that too lately I've been parking a little bit far.
Speaker 2:Yeah, just to get my exercise yeah just to get, because I feel like I'm not even like walking, I'm not getting in my steps throughout the day yeah so I just park a little far and just yeah.
Speaker 1:I don't mind it, yeah Same. I used to care Like, oh man, like I want to park right in front, like if I can just drive in the store and you know.
Speaker 2:But it just depends If you're in a hurry, if you're trying to get dinner, whatever it is yeah, but now I'm like whatever, I just walk in, walk out walk in, enjoy the walk, get your exercise, yeah, so I'm pretty.
Speaker 1:I'm pretty chill with that. So, uh, that uh was a eventful week for me. I think we talked about a lot. Thank you for sharing what you know how your week went, yeah I mean, it was just that back problem and and yeah, and the gym but yeah, it was nothing really eventful for me.
Speaker 2:I think it's just working on this podcast, um, doing door dash and just trying to keep up with my own, like insanity, like my trying to keep myself sane for me it's, uh, everything I shared, you know, from birthdays to leaving town to going to the lake getting, yeah, all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 1:So it's always uh or it's never a dull moment with with me. I feel like, um, I have a lot going on, but good stuff and uh, next week I'm looking forward to uh our deep dive. Yeah, about uh cultures and traditions this week or this week. Yeah, I'm sorry, see, I'm already a hundred days.
Speaker 2:Uh, yeah, I'm already there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm already talking about it. Um, so I'm looking forward to this thursday's episode um our premium culture. Yeah, I'm gonna share some uh practices that I do. One of my favorites is Day of the Dead.
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Speaker 1:So we do have our premium up. Um, so that's our deep dive. It's about meditation and new age practices. So, uh, definitely, we would love for you to go and take a listen. Um, we have another one upcoming this thursday. We're going to talk about traditions and cultures.
Speaker 2:That's going to be another, uh subscribed I think it's safe to say that all of our deep dives are premium episodes.
Speaker 1:Right, and that's just going to go more into the topic, rather than Warren and I just discussing kind of like what our week went like. Right Catching up Again, this family therapy is just us venting it.
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